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Ug
Jan 13, 2011 8:41:18 GMT -5
Post by KamikazePyro on Jan 13, 2011 8:41:18 GMT -5
This is the quintessential topic about what happened to Ug in the fourth film. This topic contains spoilers, so if you haven't seen the fourth movie don't proceed any further.
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He was a hero in the first and second and we really grew to like him. He was only in the third for a few minutes during the end credits, but even then he still seemed to be the same guy since he even referred to Charlie as his friend. But then in the fourth, he was suddenly a bad guy. What was up with that? Sure, it's been like 50 years and a lot could've happened in that span of time, but what exactly? Then again, we don't really know if that even truly was Ug at the end, do we?
There are quite a few theories on this subject, so what do you think?
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Ug
Jan 13, 2011 15:54:54 GMT -5
Post by Critterbuster on Jan 13, 2011 15:54:54 GMT -5
I guess we will truly never know unless we ask the director or writer in an interview witch i doubt will ever happen but if it was not UG I'd like to think that Counselor Tetra was doing research on Krites and Ug was sent to destroy the Krites and in the process Tetra found out she could capture peoples looks the same way Ug does so she Uses Ug's look as a Critter Bounty hunter in order to be sent out to find and hunt more critters. and I'm like to think Ug is still alive some were out in the universe and he never even knew about Charlie being released into space. But after watching the 4th film so many times i actually have come to really like the idea of Ug Turning evil and Charlie killing him. Cause it really shows how great of a person Charlie is and also shows what greed can do to someone.
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Ug
Jan 14, 2011 8:47:59 GMT -5
Post by thehungryheffer on Jan 14, 2011 8:47:59 GMT -5
I guess I really can't think to deeply into this mainly because the last 2 films are lower budget and filled with plot holes, like in part 3 WHY is Charlie randomly hiding outside Grover's Bend looking for the 'last' Critter when they were stated as terminated and no sign of activity from Terracorp Council until the end of part 3... and WHERE did those crystals come from? Also the fact that the 'Crites' are now endangered totally opposes why Ug was there in the first place... to freaking kill ALL of them. I just saw the good-turned-evil as a not-so-thought-out twist to make the last two more interesting and to close them up so they don't have to make anymore... but I agree it could totally be Tetra... it should have been. Ok, maybe I am looking too deeply into it lol. They should really do a prequel.
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Ug
Jan 14, 2011 12:42:07 GMT -5
Post by Critters on Jan 14, 2011 12:42:07 GMT -5
id say he would be back
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Ug
Jan 14, 2011 15:44:40 GMT -5
Post by Critterbuster on Jan 14, 2011 15:44:40 GMT -5
I actually think if they made a new movie they shouldn't try explain anything they should just keep it they way it is and maybe not really talk about it either kind of just forgetit even happend or maybe just ave charlie mention it one time or in a flash back or something.
but I would like to see something filmed on what charlie did between part 2 and 3 and how ended up in the big hole in the ground at the beginning of part 3. It wold be a cool little special for a DVD or something called meantime in Grovers Bend
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Ug
Jan 15, 2011 20:15:56 GMT -5
Post by Critters on Jan 15, 2011 20:15:56 GMT -5
I actually think if they made a new movie they shouldn't try explain anything they should just keep it they way it is and maybe not really talk about it either kind of just forgetit even happend or maybe just ave charlie mention it one time or in a flash back or something. but I would like to see something filmed on what charlie did between part 2 and 3 and how ended up in the big hole in the ground at the beginning of part 3. It wold be a cool little special for a DVD or something called meantime in Grovers Bend this is what i would like to see
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Ug
Feb 14, 2011 9:09:10 GMT -5
Post by Critterbuster on Feb 14, 2011 9:09:10 GMT -5
So i was watching Critters 4 again today i noticed something i had not ever noticed before and i think it answerers the questions about UG.
At the beginning of the film when they bring the spacepod Charlie is locked in on board they contact Tera core and Ug is the person that is on screen talking to them and he actually addresses himself to them as Counselor Tetra so I think the questions have now been solved, it is not really Ug and it is Counselor Tetra.
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Ug
Feb 27, 2011 12:36:26 GMT -5
Post by borona on Feb 27, 2011 12:36:26 GMT -5
I’m quite sure Ug and councelor Tetra are two different persons.;-) When the crew kept the capsule Charlie was frozen in, they discovered a sign on it, which they identified as the sign of the old council before it was wind up. That was the council the bounty hunters were working for. (Maybe Terracor became the new council afterwards? By force?) Terracor were also experimenting which different dangerous creatures in order to made them incease in very short time, but they failed, as the doctor on the recording said. She mentioned also, that these creatures were able to “clean” a whole planet from its inhabitants in shortest time. (War? Biological weapons?) Terracor needed the critters in order to cross them with the other race, because crites incease very fast. So Tetra changes his face into Ug’s because he wanted the last two eggs from Charlie, and he must have known, that Ug and Charlie were friends. He assumed, that Charlie will give the eggs to his “friend”. In the end of part 3 Ug/Tetra accentuated and repeated always the word “friend”. Ug never does in part 1 and 2. I think Charlie sussed out the secret of Tetra, that he’s not Ug. So he hadn’t a problem with shooting him.
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Ug
Mar 17, 2011 17:34:36 GMT -5
Post by Charlie - Bounty Hunter on Mar 17, 2011 17:34:36 GMT -5
Yeah I agree, that just... wasn't Ug for me, it couldn't have been.
Maybe if Critters 4 had been a little longer or so they could have gone on to explain something about that. Maybe Ug was being kept hostage or something, or perhaps there have to be more shape-shifting kind of aliens in the universe.
Tetra was down right evil, maybe he took on Ug's shape because he knew it would be one Charlie would know. Doesn't explain why he might have kept it over the years, other than maybe the body fit him, much like it did Ug.
The last time we see Ug, he actually has Charlie's shape and is picked up by another ship. Who knows what could have happened between that time and the next time we see him years later. Or how a single critter survived. My only thought is that, it doesn't clearly say the Critter ball contains ALL the crites (I know some people spell it as Krites, but I always spell it as Crites, since it really is the word Critters just minus a T and R) so one could have survived somehow.
Anyway, For over 10 years I've had a gut feeling that Tetra was not Ug. I always hoped a 5th movie might occur to prove it.
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Ug
Mar 21, 2011 9:37:06 GMT -5
Post by borona on Mar 21, 2011 9:37:06 GMT -5
I'm quite sure of the possibility, that there have been more shape-shifting aliens in that universe than just Ug and Lee ^^. I think Tetra is a kind of real cold-blooded politician. It won't be a big thing for him to change his face into Ug's one again, when he found out, that the space-capsule have been discovered, just to complete his evil plan to get the eggs from an unsuspecting Charlie. Maybe Tetra had another face before/inbetween, but if there exist a shape-shifting race (and as i said, im quite sure^^) in space, people won't wonder if he changes his face whenever he wants to. Yes, I can remember. Maybe Ug still wears Charlies face. He changed it to honor Charlie for what he did for the people of Grover's Bend, and maybe to prove that Charlie is now a real bountyhunter. Bit difficult to explain for me. In the beginning of part 2 Charlie always wanted to be like them, although he was a bit clumsy. So he wasn't sure, if they would keep him as a bountyhunter until Ug said so ("Charlie...Bountyhunter"). In the end Charlie look a bit confused, when he saw Ug's face again, which now showed his own face. Just as if Ug wants to say, that Charlie don't need to be like others, just be himself to be a good bountyhunter. Hope you know, what I want to say ^^' Although it is not sure for me if it was really Ug we see in the end of part 3. Maybe this was already Tetra who just impersonated as Ug. Don't know how the original was, but in german Ug (Tetra?) seemed behaving a little bit strange. Compared to the other parts in part 3 he talked a lot with Charlie, always with an intonation on „friend“ as he wants to be assure Charlie is still his friend, and he speaks clearly and in whole sentences, which Ug didn't in part 1 and 2. We discussed that in the thread Critters3 – How the critters arrive in part 3. My theory was that in part 2 the Critters laid their eggs all in and around the town. (They had enough time, hadn't they?) So even all Critters have been eliminated, there were still the eggs. And lateron Charlie have to hunt the hatched Krites. Mmh... I realize, I'm still in loss for an answere to „kamikazepyro“. Well, „kamikaze“ said, Charlie mentioned in part 3, that there's just one Critter left. And that one is the Krite that lay eggs under the camping van. Don't know, if it died or was also transported to town. But even it had survived the journey it would have been killed in the house. I have to watch part 3 again. There are a lot of things i'm not sure about. Maybe it's now up to you and critterbuster to bring some illumination on that case ;-)
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Ug
Mar 26, 2011 18:12:50 GMT -5
Post by Charlie - Bounty Hunter on Mar 26, 2011 18:12:50 GMT -5
Sounds excellent to me, haha!
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Ug
May 23, 2011 20:33:47 GMT -5
Post by Critterbuster on May 23, 2011 20:33:47 GMT -5
So i talked to Don Opper a lot about the films and one of the questions i brought up was Ug being evil and he said that it was deliberate thing straight from the start when the script was being written, that wanted him to be evil cause it would play off better for the sympathy of Charlie.
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Ug
May 24, 2011 3:12:53 GMT -5
Post by Charlie - Bounty Hunter on May 24, 2011 3:12:53 GMT -5
Aw... I stil have hope for good ug!
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Ug
May 24, 2011 7:11:23 GMT -5
Post by borona on May 24, 2011 7:11:23 GMT -5
Deliberated from the very first script? Really? Wow, what a big hit into the stomach. . o.O What a nasty trick to make the viewers think, Ug is one of the good guys, just to show the the opposite at the end. ^^. Could have been an epic end, but in my opinion, it failed :-P. In the beginning, Ug seemed to feel a little sympathy for Brad (1st part) and Charlie (2nd part). In the scene, when he assured Charlie not to let him back on earth, there are two possibilities: Either he lied (so Ug had a bad conscience which proved, that he wasn't such an evil guy, because he don't want Charlie to feel bad) or he felt real sympathy and friendship for Charlie. But then there were 50 years in between. What happened to Ug? We don't know. What happened to Ug that made him bad; a little dictator; aggressive, so that he would even shoot an old friend without any visible reason? I think without that part, it would be hard to accept, that Ug is an evil guy in the future. Just being extraterrestrial isn't a good reason for changing his state of mind from one minute to the other ^^ Don't know, if my sympathy for Charlie increased. He had to react like a bad-ass Bountyhunter to survive this fourth adventure, hadn't he? ;-)
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Ug
May 29, 2011 6:34:23 GMT -5
Post by jackdeth on May 29, 2011 6:34:23 GMT -5
So i talked to Don Opper a lot about the films and one of the questions i brought up was Ug being evil and he said that it was deliberate thing straight from the start when the script was being written, that wanted him to be evil cause it would play off better for the sympathy of Charlie. I thought it was kind of apparent in the beginning when he told Charlie "Good luck Charlie, my friend. He said it as if he were under some obligation or something. I love Critters 4, but Ug going bad has always been my main gripe.
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